In this episode of On the Money, the award-winning musician joins Old Mutual’s Group Head of Financial Education, John Manyike, to reflect on the hard lessons she learnt about money, management, and the disconnect between how success looks and what it actually pays.

She shares her experience of being signed to a record label, the assumptions that came with a flashy lifestyle, and why it’s crucial to look beyond the glitz and ask: What am I really earning for all this work?

This one’s for the dreamers, the doers, and anyone putting in the hours – make sure your numbers are working just as hard as you are. On the Money is Old Mutual’s financial education podcast, where public figures and everyday people share their real stories about money – the good, the bad, and the unexpected.